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With apologies to Ernie here's 10 pages of statistics on the Liberal-Conservative Party .
.................................The Liberal and Conservative Abuse of the Central Economies of Canada: ......................................................The economics, politics and solutions. ..................................................................(work-in-progress) In the past 35 year, since 1973, some 85% of immigrants have gone to Montreal, Toronto or Vancouver. These cities have been abused by the Immigration Department on the basis that experts say there is no statistical proof immigration causes unemployment. So now these cities' vital statistics tell a story. It is that the Liberals and Conservatives have damaged them despite the fact they have healthy, robust economies. Some statistics follow. Talking about it aloud in Parliament would be taboo, for fear of repercussions. Child Poverty in Main Canadian Cities The 2006 Census gives child poverty in Canada's main cities as follows: Montreal City……..36.8%......(pop. 1,620,000) City of Toronto……31.8%......(pop. 2,503,000) Vancouver City……28.7%......(pop. 578,000) …………………The median income of families with children, 2005. ONTARIO…………………..$54.3k The City of Toronto (416)…..$41.5k Arithmetic Difference……….$12.8k The City of Toronto has been hollowed out. ………………………………Low wage Data City………………………..Percent of workers over 20 …………………………….earning $12 an hour or less Calgary (at full employment)....7% Montreal...................................17% Toronto……............................17% Vancouver...............................15% Real Unemployment in Main Canadian Cities ...................................................Calgary.............Montreal........Toronto........Vancouver 2008 Employment Rate...............73.6%........59.5%..........62.1..........62.4% 2008 Official ..............................3.5..........7.4..........6.9..........4.3% 2008 Real Unemployment..........3.5..........17.5..........16.0..........14.8% *Here the lowish level of employment in the three biggest cities is contrasted with the full employment of Calgary (and all of Alberta). It's adjusted for differences in people over 64. Technically this is the "participation rate", a standard statistic. Robust Growth of Main Canadian Cities Here's the growth in employment in the 10 years to 2005. It's been robust but was overwhelmed by aggressive immigration. . ………………… Percent Employment Growth over 10 Years Calgary……………………42.0% Montreal……......................20.3% Toronto……........................31.4% Vancouver….......................24.3%. In the last 19 years some 1.5 million foreigners have been moved into the Greater Toronto Area. In the City of Toronto half of the greater area the child poverty rate arched up to 37% in 1997 and was at 32% in the 2006 Census. It's unacceptable. Toronto is the economic heartland of Canada. The only thing serial Immigration Department cabinet ministers, about 10 of them now, knew is that the Department brief tells them immigrants bring skills, ideas and energy. To a man they have been naive, almost apolitical but definitely program spending hungry. The Immigration Department's data to the Minister was a pack of lies sold as politically correct reasoning. The Immigration Department is dysfunctional as the bankrupt banks we are seeing currently around the world. The federal Human Resources Department has been a hand maiden to the process. The pervasive poverty and low wages in these main cities is high enough now to touch almost every family. It's that political. This is all the result of targeting long term growth as an economic strategy.
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I'm guessing you don't have a Twitter account Bruce...have you ever posted anything under 140 characters?
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I'm very terse in person Ernie. You should come out to a Fest so we can meet you.
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I have been able to embellish one of my numbers.
In the deep recession of the 1990s immigration was maintained at record levels. Toronto got 558,000 new immigrants before the economy recovered to it's previous jobs total. It took 6 years and 5 months to recover the jobs lost, to Nov. 1997, and in that time that many foreigners were allowed into the greater area. No one noticed. That is except me. I realized the cost would be a depression of family income and I paid Statistics Canada to run the income tapes. In the City of Toronto half of the greater area family income was down 15% by 1997. The total hit on family income was some $9.8 billion per year. Now this is something of a scandal and I have calculated it in Adscam units. The advertising program in Quebec that father Adscam was something like $350 millions. As I recall they estimate $40 million was stolen. This is a record heist in Canada and done by the political party in power. However the $9.8 billion I discovered is 245 times as large. That is its the equivalent of 245 Adscams per year. The national figure would be upward of 1000 Adscams a year currently.
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A legislated $13 an hour minimum wage for Alberta is reasonable.
People think a minimum wage increase will screw the economy, cost jobs and inflate. In fact the numbers are not that bad and there are compelling reasons to do it. Here is the low wage data for four cites. City………………………..Percent of workers over 20 …………………………….earning $12 an hour or less Calgary....................................7% Montreal...................................17% Toronto……............................17% Vancouver...............................15% If you raise the bottom ten percent $2 an hour on average the inflation is about ½%. That's what would be required in Alberta to come to a minimum wage of $13. Here's the calculation using the national figures: In 2009 there were 17,100 people working and raising 10% some $2 an hour would cost $6.8 billion. As the 2008 GDP was $1,398 billion that is 0.49%. It's a transfer, a tax, and it would cost jobs the amount of the inflation - 0.49% of jobs. (The jobs lost at the bottom would be more than that amount but the consumers lost go down the street, spend and replace some of the jobs.) A higher minimum wage does the following: *Cuts low pay jobs that are subsidized. *The transfer is mostly within a family because many families have someone working at low wages. *Is less exploitive. Canada has this exploitive wage problem. *A higher minimum wage would slow economic growth but only at the bottom where there is a net subsidy *In particular applies to women who's first job is child rearing and do not have skills training. The business cycle impacts on minimum wage and people there need some protection. Unions, at 30% of jobs in Canada, are protected presently as are skilled and professional workers, some 50% of the labour force. Skilled and professionals are protected by virtue of the fact there is a barrier to entry to any field of the training costs. This keeps the markets tight and the wages up. It's a privileged position. The real kicker is that if the labour market was allowed to work without immigration there would be prices rises at the bottom. Immigration always begets a little unemployment and this keeps the defacto minimum wage down. If you are going to immigrate you should protect the least well off workers with a minimum wage equal to what their market value would be. Median wage in Calgary is $23 an hour and $13 an hour is only 56% of that.
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The real unemployment rate in Canada as of 2008, pre-recession, would be 14.1%. This is an official unemployment of 6.1% plus hidden unemployment of 6.3%
(based on the employment rate in best Canadian cities) and involuntary part time worker equivalents of 1.7%. If this could be reduced the GDP would be expanded
without the additional costs to the government of supporting the population. As labour income is 50% of the GDP it would expand double the reduction of
unemployment.
Some figures are: If the drop in the employment this year is 3% but then growth returns to 3% per year while immigration is cut by half, to 125,000 a year of humanitarian, family reunion or corporate specialists, in 8 years there'd be 5% less unemployment. The increase in the GDP associated with this would be 10% so family income would be up 5% nationally while all government levels revenues (40% of the GDP) would be up $61 billion a year. If these benefits were a sell to the public you might see a return to the inflationless period we've enjoyed and even more robust economic growth. The extra growth would not only reduce unemployment but cut into anemic self employment and the marginal employers at the bottom (reducing marginal employers by increasing average employment) for additional points of growth to employment for a net effect of 10% less in unemployment. The corresponding all government levels revenues increase (with very little additional government infrastructure costs) would be $122 billion a year. At the same time the population would be aging some while natural labour force growth would moderate because of demographics. It turns out that the Conservative Party of Canada caucus is inexperienced, not that political, and cannot be told about the $122 billion windfall. The Liberal Party should be able to out play, out shoot and out fight the Conservatives. |
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One in Six Workers will drop out of labour force and stay at home.
I've looked at the labour force data carefully and found in the worst major city in Canada, Saguenay in Quebec, one in six workers has dropped out of the labour force because of the difficulty of finding a job. The data is Saguenay's employment rate amongst adults compared to the best employment rate around, Calgary in 2008. The official unemployment in Saguenay in the 2006 Census was 8.8% but the comparison to Calgary makes it 23.1%. One in six workers had the means and inclination to drop out of the labour force and do other things. This hidden unemployment is a major economic shock absorber for society. The real unemployment in Canada in 2008, pre-recession, was 12.4% using the Calgary comparison. The data had to be corrected for people over 64, who are typically retired. |
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So I got a letter through to the American Federal Reserve Chairman, Ben Bernarke. I sent him my data that there's hidden unemployment and clearing this up
would add $390 billion to federal government revenues and his correspondence staff indicate that the letter got through. Normally they just thank you but here
they explained he doesn't answer letters personnally generally. I sent Mark Carney the same letter and he did answer personnally. I'm getting letters
from Ottawa as well. In particular "Black Pete" writes me that there's trouble in the jobs market that dopes like the PM don't comprehend.
"Black Pete" is sort of the heir apparent at this time. This is of interest because (1) the PM is off kilter economically and (2) will never win a
majority. I mention this because I've had several nightcaps. I mention this because it maybe the lay of the land politically. I tend to think clearly
enough even under the influence.
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Here's the direct cost of unemployment from inappropriate immigration. Circa 2005 it was $45 billion annually. I posted this table last year but the
following is my new Excel spreadsheet data rather than my less accurate days of calculator work. It's tweeked for a differenct best case figure and such
things as more old people in some cities.
Annual Cost of Long Term Inappropriate Immigration .........................2005 Data The table below compares immigration to Canadian cities over 19 years to the real unemployment and the resultant immigrants that were actually needed and absorbed into employment. The data is for the 19 years to 2005. The real unemployment is relative to the gold standard of 72.7% adult participation which has been reached by the best cities. I allow a 3% baseline unemployment as full employment, that is an additional 3% of the urban population as absorbed immigrants in good cases. ………………………….......Official………………........Real……...............Immigrants….Immigrants ………………………......Unemployment……........Unemployment……………….........absorbed ………………………………………………....................Estimate….……………………...........into ……………………………………………………………………………….......................................employment Montreal……......................8.7%.......................15.6% ……….13.2%............ 0.6% Toronto……........................7.0%........................13.5%.............26.5%……… 16.0% Vancouver….......................5.7%.......................13.9%............. 22.9% ………12.0% Ottawa-Gatineau..................6.6%.......................11.2%………..13.3%............ 5.1% Oshawa……........................6.4%.......................11.7%……….. 4.0%...............nil Hamilton……......................5.5%.......................11.7%………..9.2%................0.5% St. Catherines.......................7.0%.......................13.9%………..5.5%............... nil London……………………...........6.6%.......................10.4%………..10.4%...............3.0% Windsor……........................7.9%.......................17.9%………..13.9%............. nil Kitchener……......................5.7%.......................8.4%…………12.1%.............6.7% Sudbury…………………….......7.7%.......................19.6%……….1.7%............. nil Thunder Bay……………….....7.0%.......................12.4%………..3.2%............. nil Winnipeg……......................4.8%.......................9.2%………….9.2%..............3.0% Regina……….......................4.9%.......................7.3%……….. 5.4%...............1.1% Saskatoon……......................5.0%.......................8.8%……….. 5.6%...............nil Calgary………......................3.9%.......................8.2%…………11.9%............6.7% Edmonton……......................4.5%.......................10.8%………..8.2%..............0.4% Victoria……………………........./.4.4%.......................9.4%…………5.6%..............nil St. John's.…………………........8.9%.......................19.3%………..2.8%..............nil Halifax…………………….........5.8%.......................11.9%………..6.6%...............nil St. John…………………….........1%.......................17.3%………..1.7%..............nil Saquenay……………………....9.9%.......................24.2%………..2.7%.............nil Quebec……………………........5.6%.......................11.4%………...4.2%..............nil Trois-Rivieres………………....8.8%.......................15.3%………..1.8%..............nil Sherbrooke………………….....7.3%.......................15.7%………..8.4%..............nil Over 19 years there were some 3,711,000 immigrants to the main cities for which there were jobs available for 1,328,000 (that'd be a corresponding work force of 810,000). Allowing that 15% of immigrants returned home, the immigrant population is similar to the Canadian population demographically so the same proportion will work and that immigrants earn as much as Canadians over the long term a figure for the annual cost to the economy of the unemployment associated with inappropriate immigration accumulated over 19 years is arrived at. It is well known that immigrants do not go on welfare disproportionately rather they work which means some else sits out of employment in the case of a soft economy, so there's that cost to family income of this employment musical chairs. The jobs market is very dynamic, people being trained and retrained all the time, so except for true skills shortages, which are rare in the modern situation, ill-timed immigration just displaces citizens. Some 51% of immigrants were needed for jobs or returned home while 49% of immigrants were absorbed into unemployment indirectly after 19 years. This unemployment is 6.4% of the 2005 labour force nationally. The cost of the inappropriate immigration is thus 6.4% of the annual national Labour Income of $694 billion (50.47% of the GDP of $1.375 trillion) for a sum of $45 billion annually circa 2005. That's 3.24% of the GDP, an amount equal to 19% of all federal taxes.
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I cant be sertin but I think maybe my mung beans got stoled by Circassian's.
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Over the long term, 20 years, the accrued cost from the unemployment from inappropriate immigration would be over $500 billion. I have diplomatic communication
from about 100 elected officials on this, they get the problem, but there will be no mention of it in public forums by them as it's irresponsible and
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I calculate the real unemployment in the Greater Toronto Area (GTA) was 17.8% as of last month rather than the official 10%. This is factoring in the people
that have dropped out of the labour force and off Statistics Canada radar on the basis of the peak performance of the Toronto suburbs (the 905) in 1990 when
and where real unemployment was only 4%. So the comparison is apples to apples.
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Until I actually see your numbers (the data and resultant statistics and not any calculations/conclusions you may have derived from them), I call
bullshit
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tikiliberationfront wrote: ~gasp!~ Gentle tikiliberationfront! If you PLEASE!
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tikiliberationfront |
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With all due respect, madame, you are becoming very tiresome.
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tikiliberationfront wrote: No problem, thanks for the response. I used the best performance of Calgary in 2008 as given in CANSIM table 282-0053 (at $3 a series) and compared it to the performance of the GTA (technically the CMA- Census Metropolitian Area) in July 2009 from CANSIM table 282-0900 (at $3 a series). The difference to note is Calgary had 74.4% of adults working in 2008 while last month the Toronto area only had 61.56% of adults working. That's what you need to know. The arithmetic is the number of people working in Calgary is 74.4% and there were 2.51% unemployed for a "adult participation in the labour force" of 77.1% (add the two). You subtract the percent adults working in Toronto( 61.56%)from that for 15.54%. You have to prorate that from a base of "adult" to a base of 77.1% of adults, the labour force. So 20.16% unemployment. Calgary has a younger population, some 2.52% over 64 less than Toronto so I simply subtract that from the 20.16% unemployment for 17.65% real unemployment in Toronto in July. I actually adjust the older population for older as a percent of "adult" and add some back in as older people do work to get my original estimate. You can check the age data by going to Statistics Canada home page and selecting "Community". Any look at the labour force survey shows you variation in the level of the labour force in the adult population. So what gives. It's obviously down is depressed areas. People drop out of the labour force and off Statistics Canada radar. I my trick is to use cities at full employment as a reference point for the natural level of the labour force. I have researched this and found cities in Canada, the USA and the UK all at full employment and all with the same level of labour force. So it's a reasonable technique.
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You can get approximately the same data from looking at the "Community Profiles" from the census data listed on Statistics Canada home page. You look
up a city and scroll down to the labour force data. It's for free, takes five minutes.
Oh, here http://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-recensement/2006/dp-pd/prof/92-591/index.cfm?Lang=E
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The bureaucrates at Statistics Canada will make highlight the differences in the number of people working in different places in Canada but they won't
comment. It's actually a flaw in their data. The "Labour Market at a Glance" for 2007 compares this for the provinces but I can't get
Imageshake to work to post the graph.
tikiliberationfront wrote:
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This is a Statistics Canada reference to the difference in employment rate between Canada and Alberta. The arithmetic for 2007 is (72-63)/.72 = 12.5% spread and not accounted for by the difference in unemployment, older people plus discouraged workers. The bureaucrats don't say anything about it. Politicians have to more sensative and account for why people aren't in the labour force in the rest of Canada.
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