i'm not sure why you chose to lash out at the uncontroversial observation that industrial livestock operations are environmental disasters, elvid...hardly a swipe at you or anyone in particular, really. i certainly bear no grudge to you and am puzzled why you chose that post to take a swipe at me?? (at least that's the way it seemed). if i've given you offense with that thread, i can't figure out why but have no hesitations apologizing.